Tuesday 3 May 2022

BUY GOLD IN THAILAND

7 July 2022

PRICE

 

Gold is same price everywhere in the world.

http://www.goldtraders.or.th/

https://gold.price-today.info/en/THB/thailand_chiang-mai_chiang-mai/


The purpose of buying gold is to insure against currency collapse or at least to have money that cannot be touched by any counter-party, for spending in retirement or when unemployed.


However history has shown that there is a real risk that the government will not tolerate individuals holding gold and if they know where you are they will call and take it off you. See last section.


CASH

Buy in cash, not credit card, to save 3% fee.

 

TAX

 

No tax on nuggets (bars) (normally 7% in Thailand).

But tax is 7% on jewellry (7% is low compared to my country).

Jewellry - a bracelet and necklace - I can take out of Thailand and into my country. But this is very difficult - I would sell in Thailand.

 

COMMISSION FEE

 

Low commission. About 0.02%.

 

WORKMANSHIP

 (ทักษะฝีมือ)

 

For jewellry, pay for workmanship (ทักษะฝีมือ) - 500b (?) for a simple necklace.

When you sell, you do not get back the ทักษะฝีมือ fee.

 

PURITY

 

Pure - in my country, pure 100% gold is 24 karat. Most gold is 18 karat = 75% pure.

In Thailand, you buy 96.5% pure (see the website) which is 23.2 karat.

But be careful with the gold - 96.5% is very soft.

 


WEIGHT

 

Need to buy a cheap scale that can fit in your pocket so you can verify weight measurements of any gold you buy. Get a precise 0.01g scale.

จำเป็นต้องซื้อเครื่องชั่งน้ำหนักราคาถูกที่สามารถใส่ในกระเป๋าของคุณได้ เพื่อให้คุณสามารถตรวจสอบการวัดน้ำหนักของทองคำที่คุณซื้อได้  รับสเกล 0.01g ที่แม่นยำ

 

WHERE TO BUY

 

Your shop. Is it in Chinatown? We need the biggest and the oldest shops in Chinatown. They won't scam.


CONFISCATION RISK

  COMPARE WEIGHT

There is a big difference between the density of gold and silver: gold is 19.32 g/cm3, silver only 10.49 g/cm3.

With the result that a 1 oz bar of gold will be almost half as small as a 1 oz bar of silver.


  COMPARE VALUE


The gold/silver ratio changes. It is the weight of silver it takes to purchase one ounce of gold. If the ratio is 25 to 1, that means, at the current price, you could use 25 ounces of silver to buy one ounce of gold. 25 to 1 would be considered a narrow ratio. 

A narrow ratio indicates that silver’s relative value is up and a wide ratio indicates that gold’s relative value is up. This ratio is an indicator that can be used to determine the right and wrong times to buy or sell gold and silver.  

SPEND

If you are buying gold to cover a shortfall of income at some point in the future, then bear in mind that you may want to sell small portions of gold - perhaps single coin - and therefore when you purchase gold keep in mind this requirement to later sell gold in small units.

WAYS TO BUY GOLD

There are three main ways to gain exposure to the gold price as a retail investor: bars and coins, gold-backed exchange traded funds and gold mining equities.

Bars and coins give you a piece of metal you can store at home, giving you something physical to hold in your hands. They range in size from one-tenth of an ounce to one kilo or larger. The disadvantage is that the premiums to pay over the spot gold price to buy bars and coins can be substantial, meaning there is a big transaction cost once you sell the gold back, as well as storage and insurance costs.

Gold-backed ETFs have evolved into two main categories of high and low-cost products. These save the buyer from taking physical custody of the bullion. The higher-cost products provide greater liquidity with low transaction costs but are better suited to fund managers moving hundreds of millions of dollars at a time. For retail investors, a newer generation of ETFs with lower management fees and less liquidity are better suited such as Invesco’s Physical Gold ETF or BlackRock’s iShares Gold Trust.

Gold mining company equities is another option to gain exposure to prices of the yellow metal. However, these can come with surprises, positive and negative. If discoveries are made, the share price may rally sharply but if there are technical or political problems, the shares can tank irrespective of the gold price. The world’s largest gold mining companies — Newmont, Barrick Gold and Agnico Eagle Mines — are all dual-listed on the New York and Toronto stock exchanges. Gold mining equity funds including VanEck Vectors Gold Miners ETF are a way to diversify risks.

Precious metals streaming companies are another set of equities to consider, since they take small cuts on sales of many projects in return for providing financing, meaning the risks of each project or company is diluted in a broader portfolio. Among the largest listed precious metals streaming groups are Canada’s Franco-Nevada and Wheaton Precious Metals.


BIG WARNING

Here is a persuasive set of arguments for buying gold. This is at 25 March 2023
https://youtu.be/A2G3MAxdZfU

I follow and agree with all the arguments made in that video. In particular, there's a line something like, 

"How to manage members of the general public, who have more faith in the system than people people sitting round this table do"

At offset Kitco 13'40".

Notice who is sitting round the table. This is an FDIC meeting and the table is members of its systemic resolution advisory committee, SRAC

The SRAC advises the FDIC on how to manage threats to "too big to fail" financial institutions. Love it. 

The quandary they are in is how to prepare such institutions - and the bond holders and depositors - for a systemic failure, whilst at the same time making sure these depositors and bondholders do nothing about it ... for example they don't pull their deposits or sell their bonds.

I suppose first you sting them, to numb and paralyse; and then you suck out all their funds. Ha ha.

But I would say two things about this video and its concluding advice to buy gold.

1. One is that it's a video promoted by the Gold Mining whatever they call themselves, so raise one eyebrow "-).

2. And the other thing is that if all goes in the way they suggest, and you have a safe under the floorboards stuffed full of gold and silver, tge fiat currency collapses as per the govt plan, there's a smooth transition to the new central bank digital curreny, and now the government is running a tight ship using its digital currency.

So, what makes you think that if you take your gold to the bank, they will give you the digital currency equivalent that you need to buy bread and pay your rent?

Wouldn't it be more likely that before the transition, the government says,
"bring us your gold! Bring us your silver! and  we will give you the digital currency equivalent, but after the transition we will not recognise your gold"

And probably what they'll do instead, is call on you - because when you buy gold you have to declare your name and address - locate and break into your safe, and take your gold and put it into their safe!

So raise the other eyebrow ""-).

CONCLUSION

Considering relative weight and price, in the light of confiscation risk, you might like to consider whether it is worth holding this insurance in silver rather than gold or some mixture of the two. This is because the authorities would be very unlikely to call to collect your silver, whereas with gold if the s*** hits the fan they will almost certainly find out where you are and take your gold.



 

NOTE ON MEASURES - TROY OUNCES / BAHT

 

Gold internationally is usually measured in Troy ounces. One ounce = 31.1035 grams.

 

A baht of gold is just under one half troy ounce.

 

When wr speak of “One ounce of gold”, we typically mean one troy ounce = 31,1035 gram of 100% pure gold.

 

When a Thai speaks of “One baht of gold”, you typically mean 15.24 grams of 96,5% pure gold = 14.71 grams of 100% pure gold.


NEED 

-Scales

-Passport

-Cash

-Check shop

 

ราคา

 

 ทองคำมีราคาเท่ากันทุกที่ในโลก

 http://www.goldtraders.or.th/

 

 

 ซื้อด้วยเงินสด ไม่ใช่บัตรเครดิต เพื่อประหยัดค่าธรรมเนียม 3%

 

 ภาษี

 

 ไม่มีภาษีนักเก็ต (บาร์) (ปกติ 7% ในประเทศไทย)

 แต่ภาษีสำหรับเครื่องประดับคือ 7% (7% ต่ำเมื่อเทียบกับประเทศของฉัน)

 Jewellry - สร้อยข้อมือและสร้อยคอ - ฉันสามารถนำออกจากประเทศไทยและเข้าประเทศของฉันได้  แต่มันยากมาก - ฉันจะขายในประเทศไทย

 

 ค่านายหน้า

 

 ค่าคอมมิชชั่นต่ำ  ประมาณ 0.02%

 

 ฝีมือ (ฝีมือ)

 

 สำหรับเครื่องประดับก็จ่ายสำหรับฝีมือ (ทักษะฝีมือ) - 500b (?) สำหรับสร้อยคอแบบเรียบๆ

 ขายแล้วไม่รับค่าธรรมเนียมงานฝีมือคืน

 

 ความบริสุทธิ์

 

 เพียว - ในประเทศของฉัน ทองแท้ 100% คือ 24 กะรัต  ทองคำส่วนใหญ่เป็น 18 กะรัต = บริสุทธิ์ 75%

 ในประเทศไทย คุณซื้อบริสุทธิ์ 96.5% (ดูเว็บไซต์) ซึ่งเท่ากับ 23.2 กะรัต

 แต่ระวังด้วยทองคำ - 96.5% อ่อนมาก

 

 น้ำหนัก

 

 จำเป็นต้องซื้อเครื่องชั่งน้ำหนักราคาถูกที่สามารถใส่ในกระเป๋าของคุณได้ เพื่อให้คุณสามารถตรวจสอบการวัดน้ำหนักของทองคำที่คุณซื้อได้  รับสเกล 0.01g ที่แม่นยำ

 พยายามซื้อเครื่องกลราคาตรงที่ท้าทายในกระเป๋าที่ท้าทาย รับยอดเยี่ยงว...

 

 ซื้อที่ไหน

 

 ร้านค้าของคุณ  อยู่ที่ไชน่าทาวน์หรือเปล่าคะ?  เราต้องการร้านค้าที่ใหญ่ที่สุดและเก่าแก่ที่สุดในไชน่าทาวน์  พวกเขาจะไม่หลอกลวง

 

 หมายเหตุเกี่ยวกับมาตรการ - ทรอยออนซ์ / บาท

 

 ทองคำในประเทศของฉันมักจะวัดเป็นหน่วยทรอยออนซ์  หนึ่งออนซ์ = 31.1035 กรัม

 

 ทองคำหนึ่งบาทมีค่าต่ำกว่าทรอยออนซ์เพียงครึ่งเดียว

 

 เมื่อฝรั่งพูดถึง “ทองหนึ่งออนซ์” เรามักจะหมายถึงหนึ่งทรอยออนซ์ = 31,1035 กรัมของทองคำบริสุทธิ์ 100%

 

 เมื่อคนไทยพูดถึง "ทองหนึ่งบาท" โดยทั่วไปแล้วคุณหมายถึงทองคำบริสุทธิ์ 96,5% 15.24 กรัม = ทองคำบริสุทธิ์ 100% 14.71 กรัม


ความต้องการ

 -เครื่องชั่ง

 -หนังสือเดินทาง

 -เงินสด

 -เช็คร้าน

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